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Can Myth Teach Us Anything About the Race to Build Artificial General Intelligence? With Josh Schrei er klart et lyt værd.
AI er Gud, måske hævngerrig. AI er lampeånd, måske ukontrollérbar. Vi er troldsmandslærlinge med for lidt greb om, hvad vi egentlig gør.
Udsendelsen åbner vores øjne for, i hvor høj grad vi tænker mytisk om AI.
Citater transskriberet af Whisper i en rasende fart:
"Our guest today is Josh Schrei, the creator and host of the Emerald podcast, which explores topics like psychology, ecology, and technology through the lens of mythology.
He's a writer and teacher, as well as a lifelong student of world mythologies and traditions, specializing in the myths of the Indian subcontinent.
Last summer, Josh put out a two-hour episode of the Emerald called So You Want to Be a Sorcerer in the Age of Mythic Powers, a.k.a. The AI episode.
And both Tristan and I found it deeply moving. This episode looked at how our trajectory with AI is entwined with cultural myths about magic and spirituality, and it provided a perspective that we believe has been sorely missing from the conversation around AI."
"In the end, a lot of the tech people...When I really grill them on it, they retreat into number one, determinism. Number two, the inevitable replacement of biological life with digital life. And number three, that being a good thing anyways.
And he goes on to say that these AI leaders have an emotional desire to meet and speak to the most intelligent entity they've ever met. And they have some ego-religious intuition that they'll somehow be a part of it. It's thrilling to start an exciting fire. They fear they will die. So they'd prefer to light it and see what happens."
So you have the power to create alternate realities instantaneously, to deceive millions or billions of people at once. These are what you could call mythic powers. These are powers that human beings have never really had before in many ways.
And so I started to feel that really, the only, the only way to accurately talk about the implications of AI was to speak mythically. If it was just reason at play, we wouldn't keep trying to create things that have a like really good chance of going haywire and destroying us, right?
But yet we do.
Why do we do that? [...]
There's a part of us that wants to see what happens if we just open the spellbook like the old story, the sorcerer's apprentice says and start casting spells."
"Part of the drive that we want to be like taken down to size is an extinction drive, right? The part of us that longs for annihilation is the same part of us that longs for mystery that pushes the boundaries until something triggers a series of consequences that comes back on us. You know, it's this is very deeply embedded in human beings. The drive for something unpredictable to happen, the drive for something mysterious, to present itself. And this is part of why I say that really the entire framework of the AI discussion is religious."
And I said this in a recent talk out in San Francisco: You know, there are people, young people now who are tinkering with world altering technologies, and they don't even know how to make a fire. Fire is the oldest
technology of all, making fire the old way, the old technology of fire. It's slow and it's steady and it requires patience. And it gives us an introduction, right, to something that can provide warmth and nourishment and can cook our food and can also burn the whole house down if it gets out of control. How do we work with that? How do we start to slowly and surely, understand, like, containment within the process of ideation and new ideas and new technologies,
and then understand what it means that, like, the fire needs to be contained a little bit too?"
Just to quote Demis Hassabis, who's the co-founder of DeepMind, who said our mission statement at DeepMind, which is the first company whose mission was dedicated to building artificial general intelligence,
the way he said it is "solve intelligence and then use intelligence to solve everything else. Because if humanity can solve intelligence, you can solve every scientific problem, every game theoretic problem.
You can solve every space, energy problem, technology, you know, transportation problem, environmental problem. And so this is, this is already the psychology of what will it take to build this."
"You know, ethics is something that needs to be experienced directly, and we experience it through the example of others. I'm talking about actually interacting within a web of relationships. And I think for young kids growing up these days, this is one of the reasons why it's extremely important to not have their primary interaction be digital. They need time actually navigating relationships in the world that don't follow the laws of, you know, the laws of the world."
Der er, som altid, mere viden og visdom i Sam Harris og Goethe.
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